Showing posts with label group sets. Show all posts
Showing posts with label group sets. Show all posts

Sunday, March 11, 2018

Falling prices predicted for framesets (especially carbon), entry level bikes, but rising prices for GS

Wheels of Happiness

Rizal Philippines
March 11, 2018

Now that the secret is out ie that many high end carbon fiber bikes are made in Taiwan, that there are more suppliers:   Trinx, Merida, have  come in Keith; there at least 3 OEM suppliers in MM, 2 in the South (one in CDO and one in Cebu) frames, framesets are likely to fall down.  Even the 2nd hand market price is likely to drop. The Willier 2nd hand prices used to be fixed at P30k+ fixed.  But many cant sell at P25K.  Brand new Willier Triestina used to be P50k. But there are BN at P40K plus.

It is common now to see entry level bikes:  Xix at P6K,  Trinx at  P10k plus.  Many bike shops multi branches are sprouting:   Ryan, the Bulacan chain.   The old traditional bike shops I think, are reeling from onslaught of new bike shops.  Not to mention Mars Kingdom and many more.

Now there is Lazada competing too;  you can order direct from China via Alibaba....

However the high end GS from Shimano Campy and SRAM will continue to have field day.   Unless SAVA, Giant and Cannondale have their own version.  They too I think will think of competing.  Or even FSA will not just produce cranksets...But GS too.  Ultegra 6800 can be had at P21K but now you cant have one for P27k

Ano effect ng TRAIN LAW  sa bike /parts prices.  Malaki ba daw?  Parang..Mahal na fuel pricces, kuryente. Ano ba itong mga Presidente.... Pati hobby natin na perder...

Monday, January 29, 2018

Comparison of weight of groupsets for the weighty weenies

Wheels of Happiness

Rizal Philippines
January 29,2017

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                                            Magaan subalit mahal   mga P140,000 php Red 22




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I compiled a list of the weight  of the groupsets. I am repeating that if you want to a have light bike (a light bike translates into an efficient and sometimes fast bike)  If you must upgrade, its not only the looks or the brand but consider  the weight:(cost to weight ratio)

        1.    Frame sets

          Not all carbon frames are light review of a carbon frame circa 2011 showed a carbon built bike
          weighing 8kg +.  The Bianchi of some of RBP are said to be tipping the scales at 8.5 kg.  Some alum
          bikes by Cannondale, Giant Merida are light.

     2.  Wheelsets

         Typical wheelsets weigh over 2 kg.  Some more expensive branded weigh over 1.85 kg, those over
         P15,000 tip the scales at 1.7 kg.   Most carbon frames are 1.5 kg.   The branded ones are at 1.5kg.
         Am Cla came out with 1.4+ kg alum wheelsets.  The 350 and 420.   Light bikes.   Even Ursu, the
         Italian company have wheelsets weighing in at 1.6 kg.  But they have beautiful wheels   Aero wheelsets
         are expensive but their wind cheating features are what you pay for.  at 30+ kph, your ability to cut
         through the air is what counts, not the weight.

         Orig 450 carbon wheelset weighs 1,500 grams. SRP is at P30 k.

       Novatec Jetfly (which I bought) weighs 1,435 gtrams making my Freccia really sub 8 kg alum bike.

       Some Italian carbon fiber wheelsets weigh 1,300 grams and cost over P130K.

   3.  Group sets:    Component Weight Comparison from Total Cycling

        There are three major manufacturers:  Shimano, Campagnolo and SRAM. Their average weight is
        2 kg;   Shimano group sets are heavier, Campy is lighter than Shimano, and SRAM is the lightest.
        SRAM was the first with SRAM red 22 to be sub 2 kg.  (1.7kg)

        Weight comparison

        1. Shimano                                                                     PHL price

           105                               2.498 grams                         P18,000

           Ultegra 6800 8000        2,294 grams                           30,000

           Durace   9000               1,998 grams                           64,000